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<p>In France, we follows the Fide rules and It's the same.<br>
The arbiters are responsible of the respect of the rules, the checking <br>
of the clocks is in these.<br>
<br>
fmeric64 wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> The stupid USCF rules create such problems. In the real rules of chess <br>
> it is clearly the responsibility of the arbiters to check the clocks <br>
> regularly. Any arbiter who doesn't should be fired. I check clocks every <br>
> hour.<br>
> <br>
> But idiots in USCF make players act as referees, so this clumsy incident <br>
> is typical.<br>
> <br>
> IA Eric Schiller<br>
> <br>
> --- In <a href="mailto:Chess_Improvement%40yahoogroups.com">Chess_Improvement@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a> <br>
> <mailto:Chess_<wbr>Improvement%<wbr>40yahoogroups.<wbr>com>, William Shehan <br>
> <william@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > This happened to me this weekend. I was down in time but had a winning<br>
> > position, I had 3 minutes and was playing fast. Time went down to 30 <br>
> seconds<br>
> > when I finally noticed that the delay was missing. When I pointed <br>
> this out<br>
> > my opponent, who set the clock, resigned. I felt that this was not <br>
> fair as<br>
> > by hitting the clock and starting the game I had accepted the clock. <br>
> As the<br>
> > main TD I could not rule on it, so I asked my Asst TD NM Vince Berry <br>
> for a<br>
> > ruling. He said that it should be a draw on a non-winning position. <br>
> So, even<br>
> > though my opponent had technically resigned I decided to take the 1/2 <br>
> point<br>
> > instead, out of fairness.<br>
> ><br>
> > Lesson of this... Check the clock before you start or at least in the <br>
> first<br>
> > few moves and avoid this issue.<br>
> ><br>
> > William<br>
> > Www.midwaychessclub<wbr>.org<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 9/23/09 12:49 PM, "Brian Wall" <BrianWallChess3@<wbr>...> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > If you are losing on time in a winning position and<br>
> > > you just noticed you forgot to set the delay:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Option 1 for the draw -<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Demand a draw if you have less than two<br>
> > > minutes left in a Sudden Death time control.<br>
> > > Your opponent will agree once the TD explains that his option<br>
> > > is to take half your time away and give you a 3( or 5 ) second delay.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Option 2 for the win -<br>
> > > Pray your TD is Duwayne Langseth, who will reset your clock with a <br>
> delay<br>
> > > even if you only have 2 seconds left and not Harvey Lerman who will <br>
> laugh<br>
> > > at you or Damian Nash who will club you with his new bionic, <br>
> robotic thumb,<br>
> > > courtesy of a motorcycle accident at 75 mph.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Option 3 -<br>
> > > for a final ruling contact Tim Just<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> <br>
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