[BrianWall-ChessList] Gerald Snitselaar and Lawrence Constance - TD counting moves

[Brian Wall]

Date:  Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:47:18 -0700
From:  Gerard Snitselaar <snitschess at gmail.com>
To:  Brian Wall <brianwallchess3 at taom.com>
Subject:  Re: [BrianWall-ChessList] Klaus Johnson - TD counting moves
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I'm pretty certain the rule is players are not required to keep score when one
of them has less than 5 minutes on the clock, with no mention of time delays
negating this rule.

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----- Forwarded message from Lawrence Constance <lacon1963 at yahoo.com> -----
    Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:17:59 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Lawrence Constance <lacon1963 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Lawrence Constance <lacon1963 at yahoo.com>
 Subject: Re: [BrianWallChess] Klaus Johnson - TD counting moves
      To: Brian Wall <BrianWallChess3 at Taom.com>

USCF rules (5th Edition, Pg. 57)

15C. Scorekeeping in time pressure, suddent death time control. If either player
has less than five minutes remaining in a sudden death time control, both
players are excused from the obligation to keep score. A score sheet is not
required to win on time in a sudden death time control. (13C).
 
15D. Use of opponent's scoresheet for assistance. A player who has an incomplete
scoresheet (13C7) and wishes to consult the opponent's scoresheet for assistance
may ask to borrow it from the opponent under the following conditions:
 
15D1. Clock Times. Both players have at least five minutes remaining in the
current time control/
 
15D2. Borrower's clock runs. The clock of the player making such a request is
running and shall continue to run until the scoresheet has been returned.
 
15D3. Compiance. The opponent is urged to comply with such a request, but this
is not mandatory. If the opponent denies the request, the player may stop both
clocks and see a director. A director who agrees that the request is
appropriate shall instruct the opponent to lend the player the scoresheet. The
opponent may not refuse, as all scoresheets belong to the organizers.
 
The question as to whether a director or deputy may keep score is a little
ambiguous, but I think that this answers the question somewhat.
 
USCF Rule Book P.47
 
14F4. Director may count moves in sudden death. In sudden death, a player with
less than five minutes remaining and a simplified position in which no pawn
moves or captures seem likely may stop both clocks. declare to a directo an
intention to invoke the 50 move rule when possible, and ask for assistance in
counting moves A director who agrees this is appropriate may count moves or use
a deputy or a clock with a move counter to do so.
 
here is the passage that may apply-
 
14F4(b). The director or deputy may either keep score, make check marks, or
combine the two.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Lawrence Constance

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